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Bugzilla from diwaker.lists@gmail.com
I used to build Vim from CVS usin a-a-p. After seeing the
announcements for 7.0d and 7.0BETA, I tried updating from CVS but
didn't get anything. Is anyone else seeing this problem?

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Re: CVS updated?

Bram Moolenaar

> I used to build Vim from CVS usin a-a-p. After seeing the
> announcements for 7.0d and 7.0BETA, I tried updating from CVS but
> didn't get anything. Is anyone else seeing this problem?

The CVS for non-developers apparently still doesn't work.

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1

Apparently they now need new hardware to fix this problem...

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Re: CVS updated?

Bram Moolenaar
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George V. Reilly wrote:

> Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> >> I used to build Vim from CVS usin a-a-p. After seeing the
> >> announcements for 7.0d and 7.0BETA, I tried updating from CVS but
> >> didn't get anything. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> >>    
> >
> > The CVS for non-developers apparently still doesn't work.
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1
> >
> > Apparently they now need new hardware to fix this problem...
> >  
>
> Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.

Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
And repeat that for every snapshot?

We don't need the whole version history, only the possibility to
checkout recent versions.

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Re: CVS updated?

Karsten Hopp
> > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
>
> Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> And repeat that for every snapshot?
>
> We don't need the whole version history, only the possibility to
> checkout recent versions.
>

There are tools available to convert CVS repositories to subversion, have
a look at http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#cvs2svn


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Re: CVS updated?

Bram Moolenaar

Karsten Hopp wrote:

> > > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
> >
> > Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> > And repeat that for every snapshot?
> >
> > We don't need the whole version history, only the possibility to
> > checkout recent versions.
> >
>
> There are tools available to convert CVS repositories to subversion, have
> a look at http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#cvs2svn

There are also docs on the sourceforge site.  Still someone has to
actually do it.

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Re: CVS updated?

Edward L. Fox
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Hi Bram,

On 4/17/06, Bram Moolenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> George V. Reilly wrote:
>
> > Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > >> I used to build Vim from CVS usin a-a-p. After seeing the
> > >> announcements for 7.0d and 7.0BETA, I tried updating from CVS but
> > >> didn't get anything. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> > >>
> > >
> > > The CVS for non-developers apparently still doesn't work.
> > >
> > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1
> > >
> > > Apparently they now need new hardware to fix this problem...
> > >
> >
> > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
>
> Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> And repeat that for every snapshot?

I can do that. My only question is, should I use the subversion
service supplied by sourceforge, or use some other host? If use the
sourceforge svn service, please grant me the corresponding privilege,
my sf ID is "edyfox". If you decide to use other host, I'll make a
site available in two or three days.

> We don't need the whole version history, only the possibility to
> checkout recent versions.
>
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Regards,


Edward L. Fox
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Re: CVS updated?

Bram Moolenaar

Edward L. Fox wrote:

> On 4/17/06, Bram Moolenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > George V. Reilly wrote:
> >
> > > Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > > >> I used to build Vim from CVS usin a-a-p. After seeing the
> > > >> announcements for 7.0d and 7.0BETA, I tried updating from CVS but
> > > >> didn't get anything. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > The CVS for non-developers apparently still doesn't work.
> > > >
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they now need new hardware to fix this problem...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
> >
> > Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> > And repeat that for every snapshot?
>
> I can do that. My only question is, should I use the subversion
> service supplied by sourceforge, or use some other host? If use the
> sourceforge svn service, please grant me the corresponding privilege,
> my sf ID is "edyfox". If you decide to use other host, I'll make a
> site available in two or three days.

We can do this on SourceForge, I suppose.  I have added you to the Vim
group.  Use it responsibly!

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Re: CVS updated?

David Brown-5
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 01:27:10PM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

> Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> And repeat that for every snapshot?

BTW, I maintain a git snapshot of both the vim6 and the vim7 cvs trees.
Currently, these are at:

  http://www.davidb.org/git/vim.git       - Vim < 7.
  http://www.davidb.org/git/vim7.git      - Vim 7

Git does do a full download of the history the first time, and if there is
too much traffic, I'll have to find another place to host this.

I pull the snapshots for vim7 from the developer CVS tree, so they still
work.  The vim <7 tree I maintain directly from patches, and use git to
apply these patches to the CVS tree at sourceforge.

Dave
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Re: CVS updated?

Edward L. Fox
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Hi Bram,

On 4/17/06, Bram Moolenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Edward L. Fox wrote:
>
> > On 4/17/06, Bram Moolenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > George V. Reilly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > > > >> I used to build Vim from CVS usin a-a-p. After seeing the
> > > > >> announcements for 7.0d and 7.0BETA, I tried updating from CVS but
> > > > >> didn't get anything. Is anyone else seeing this problem?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > The CVS for non-developers apparently still doesn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they now need new hardware to fix this problem...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > > > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
> > >
> > > Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> > > And repeat that for every snapshot?
> >
> > I can do that. My only question is, should I use the subversion
> > service supplied by sourceforge, or use some other host? If use the
> > sourceforge svn service, please grant me the corresponding privilege,
> > my sf ID is "edyfox". If you decide to use other host, I'll make a
> > site available in two or three days.
>
> We can do this on SourceForge, I suppose.  I have added you to the Vim
> group.  Use it responsibly!

I'm doing the work now but unfortunately I find that I don't have
enough privilege to enable the subversion service nor access the svn
repository. Could you grant me the privilege, too?

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RE: CVS updated?

Vince Negri (ASL)
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Is the idea that this is a complete switch to SVN, or will the CVS
tree still be updated once it's back online?

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward L. Fox [mailto:[hidden email]]

> > > > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > > > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
> > >
> > > Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> > > And repeat that for every snapshot?
> >
> > I can do that. My only question is, should I use the subversion
> > service supplied by sourceforge, or use some other host? If use the
> > sourceforge svn service, please grant me the corresponding privilege,
> > my sf ID is "edyfox". If you decide to use other host, I'll make a
> > site available in two or three days.
>
> We can do this on SourceForge, I suppose.  I have added you to the Vim
> group.  Use it responsibly!

I'm doing the work now but unfortunately I find that I don't have
enough privilege to enable the subversion service nor access the svn
repository. Could you grant me the privilege, too?


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CVS updated?

Edward L. Fox
> Is the idea that this is a complete switch to SVN, or will the CVS
> tree still be updated once it's back online?

I'm not sure at this moment. Bram and other VIM developers uses not
only CVS it self, but also a lot of other scripts which relies
strongly on the output information of cvs. So switching to svn will
cost more effect. Any way, I'll try my best to switch the whole
project to svn, without disturbing the other developers too much.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward L. Fox [mailto:[hidden email]]
>
> > > > > Maybe we should go to Subversion at SourceForge after all, since their
> > > > > SVN servers are not experiencing hardware problems.
> > > >
> > > > Well, is there someone who can transfer the CVS stuff into Subversion?
> > > > And repeat that for every snapshot?
> > >
> > > I can do that. My only question is, should I use the subversion
> > > service supplied by sourceforge, or use some other host? If use the
> > > sourceforge svn service, please grant me the corresponding privilege,
> > > my sf ID is "edyfox". If you decide to use other host, I'll make a
> > > site available in two or three days.
> >
> > We can do this on SourceForge, I suppose.  I have added you to the Vim
> > group.  Use it responsibly!
>
> I'm doing the work now but unfortunately I find that I don't have
> enough privilege to enable the subversion service nor access the svn
> repository. Could you grant me the privilege, too?
>
>
>
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Re: CVS updated?

Bram Moolenaar

Edward L. Fox wrote:

> > Is the idea that this is a complete switch to SVN, or will the CVS
> > tree still be updated once it's back online?
>
> I'm not sure at this moment. Bram and other VIM developers uses not
> only CVS it self, but also a lot of other scripts which relies
> strongly on the output information of cvs. So switching to svn will
> cost more effect. Any way, I'll try my best to switch the whole
> project to svn, without disturbing the other developers too much.

I will keep using CVS for now.  I don't want to switch to something new
short before a release.

Note to Edward: I assume you can use your developer access to the CVS
server to get the latest version, as opposed to the anonymous CVS server
which is now behind quite a bit.

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