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Re: Vim website hosting

Christian Brabandt

On Mi, 28 Mär 2018, Eustáquio Rangel wrote:

> What about Github pages?
>
> https://pages.github.com/
>
> As the Vim repository is hosted also there, maybe it's a good choice.

Sorry, we don't want to discuss other hosting services now and github
pages does not allow to run dynamic scripting pages which is what we
need.

Best,
Christian
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Re: Vim website hosting

lith
> > What about Github pages?
> >
> > https://pages.github.com/

This also was my first though.

> Sorry, we don't want to discuss other hosting services now and github
> pages does not allow to run dynamic scripting pages which is what we
> need.

What is actually needed? Couldn't the vim homepage to without the plugins directory. Github supports labels (e.g. vim-plugin) to mark a repo as a vim plugin. What else do you need dynamic scripts for?

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Re: Vim website hosting

Keith Edmunds
SourceForge used to be great, but that was so long ago we can barely
remember.

Github would be my preference, too.
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Re: Vim website hosting

Bram Moolenaar
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> > > What about Github pages?
> > >
> > > https://pages.github.com/
>
> This also was my first though.
>
> > Sorry, we don't want to discuss other hosting services now and github
> > pages does not allow to run dynamic scripting pages which is what we
> > need.
>
> What is actually needed? Couldn't the vim homepage to without the
> plugins directory. Github supports labels (e.g. vim-plugin) to mark a
> repo as a vim plugin. What else do you need dynamic scripts for?

There is no point in having this discussion, since overhauling the
website is out of scope.  As in: it may happen some day, but not now.

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Re: Vim website hosting

Christian Brabandt

On Mi, 28 Mär 2018, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

> > What is actually needed? Couldn't the vim homepage to without the
> > plugins directory. Github supports labels (e.g. vim-plugin) to mark a
> > repo as a vim plugin. What else do you need dynamic scripts for?

I am not sure I understand the remark about marking/labeling a plugin
and how that is helping us here. Remember there are still many plugins
available, that are not hosted at github.

But for once, it would be a shame to lose all the old uploaded scripts,
karma rating, etc. and currently at least the news items besides the
scripts are stored in a database and probably a bunch of other stuff is
as well.

Third, who is going to translate the current information that is stored
in php files into markdown/static html files? That will be a whole bunch
of work.

Next, I am sure, everybody has his favorite website hosting vendor. But
such a topic has so much bike shedding value, that we can discuss this
for months without even reaching a consensus. So in the end it comes to
Bram to make the final decision and then someone has to do the actual
work.

And finally I am not sure, that making us rely on another single vendor
again is such a clever move now. Github is the sf.net from today. Once
we depend on it, it will make moving to somewhere else even harder. And
who thought that sf.net would become so bad 20 years ago?

> There is no point in having this discussion, since overhauling the
> website is out of scope.  As in: it may happen some day, but not now.

Having said all that, I am sure it would be appreciated if someone would
step up and volunteer to redesign the website. But as implied above it
will be a whole bunch of work (without anything to gain anything
personally except some fame) and a redesign will be even more
controversial.

I remember there was discussion about it in the past, but I don't think
anything actually happened.

Best,
Christian
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Re: Vim website hosting

lith
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You're right of course. I also agree with the "vendor lock-in" argument.

Regards

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