I don't know about anyone else, but I just use the built-in spam and
message routing facilities within Thunderbird. The message routing
stuff I use to direct any/all vim related activities to the vim folder
and spam just gets put into the junk folder where I review everything.
I am a member of spamcop because I run an e-mail server but I review
each and every message before sending it to them. Vim mail has never
been sent to spamcop. Most of my real spam is easy to find. It starts
with
[hidden email] or
[hidden email] or some other fictitious e-mail
address. So that makes it really easy to tell. There is one add-on I
used to use (but haven't for a while now). It used to use the
blacklists. However, you can direct it to just put the spam in the junk
folder and then you can check it there. Blacklists do help with spam
but you also have to make sure that they, like anything else, aren't
being abused. So when the bad guys grab your site's id and start doing
something bad with it - you sometimes get caught in the middle ground.
I have and it took a while to clear my site's name. But now better
detections are showing the e-mail doesn't come from me. And I have no
idea why they decided to even start using my site's id. They just did.
So I fight back via Spamcop and, like I said, I am now a paid member.
Recently I upgraded my server from a desktop unit to a laptop unit to
run the sites. I did this because the laptop has a built-in battery (so
no more brown-out shutdowns of the system) and because the laptop has
two cpus. In doing this I found out that someone had installed
something that allowed spammers to use our system to redirect the e-mail
out into the internet. I reset all of the ports so no one could send
e-mail at all, waiting a while, and then began allowing e-mail to go
again. This reset everything in the e-mail program and now I see
hundreds of rejected attempts to redirect e-mail. I'm keeping a log so
I can notify all of those people that their computers are sending spam.
I've also notified the company (in South Africa called Capesoft) that
there is a problem with their software. They are investigating to find
out why it did this. So you have to be on the lookout for things
happening when you are not expecting them to be happening. The e-mail
server was running just fine. It was human error that didn't notice
others were using the server to send out spam. (ie: My fault) At least
I have corrected the problem.
On 7/11/2010 9:04 AM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> This appears to happen more often these days: I send a message to a user
> and some blacklist system blocks my message. I have no control over
> what my ISP does, these services simply block my message without a way
> for me to fix this.
>
> Please, don't use these blacklist services, they are very annoying.
> They think they can reduce spam, but only by blocking legitimate
> messages. I rather have 100 spam messages than losing one real message.
> Also, there is no reliable way to tell if a message is spam or not.
> Some of these services even ask money to be removed from the list, which
> is close to extortion.
>
> Specifically my message to George Reilly started failing today.
> Messages to Mattias Winther were blocked for a longer time.
>
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