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VimWiki - First Beta

Sebastian Menge
Hi all

Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5 

I did a lot of experiments over the weekend. I mostly used a local
mediawiki-installation and even from localhost to localhost a full
import takes about an hour. Im excited to learn how long it will take to
import to a remote mediawiki ...

Some notes about it:

1) references to other tips get automatically replaced like in
http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip123

2) references to the vim help get replaced by links to the
vim-doc.sf.net as in http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip26

3) the following chars are forbidden in titles : [] {} # | +
These get replaced by __HASH__ __PLUS__ and the like. This is ugly but i
dont want to do any editorial work on the articles now.

4) The formatting of the tips and comments gets broken fairly often.
This is because original tips are verbatim and could contain wiki-markup
(eg. one space indent is interpreted as verbatim by the wiki or the vim
command '[[' starts a wiki tag)

5) we definitely need to edit the tips later on. I wont tweak the script
up to infinity. Some things are easier repaired by Hand (e.g.
http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip7 )

My host is only accessible until 17h MESZ (thats 3h from now on). Then
i'll be offline.

Please give feedback!

Sebastian.



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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

iler.ml
On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5

Where can I see the "recently posted"/"by recency" view ?
In other words, what's used for RSS ?

Yakov
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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Sebastian Menge
Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 02:45 -1100 schrieb Yakov Lerner:
> On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
>
> Where can I see the "recently posted"/"by recency" view ?
> In other words, what's used for RSS ?

It's a quick and dirty installation on my machine, probably RSS is an
extension that is not installed. That will change on vim.wikia.com.

Recent Changes in HTML-Form can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/index.php/Special:Recentchanges

Seb.


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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Tom Purl 2
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On Tue, May 29, 2007 8:45 am, Yakov Lerner wrote:
> On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
>
> Where can I see the "recently posted"/"by recency" view ?
> In other words, what's used for RSS ?

I don't think that Mediawiki has this feature by default.
Traditionally, I think you're supposed to explicitly "watch" a page and
then you need to manually check your "watched pages" list.  It's not the
most efficient process in the world I know, but that's the way it's done
most of the time.

HTH,

Tom Purl


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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Tom Purl 2
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At first blush, it looks really good.  I'm making a httrack copy of it
right now since I know that it won't be up much longer.  Later I can
give you a better review :)

Great work!

Tom Purl

On Tue, May 29, 2007 7:04 am, Sebastian Menge wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
>
> I did a lot of experiments over the weekend. I mostly used a local
> mediawiki-installation and even from localhost to localhost a full
> import takes about an hour. Im excited to learn how long it will take to
> import to a remote mediawiki ...
>
> Some notes about it:
>
> 1) references to other tips get automatically replaced like in
> http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip123
>
> 2) references to the vim help get replaced by links to the
> vim-doc.sf.net as in http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip26
>
> 3) the following chars are forbidden in titles : [] {} # | +
> These get replaced by __HASH__ __PLUS__ and the like. This is ugly but i
> dont want to do any editorial work on the articles now.
>
> 4) The formatting of the tips and comments gets broken fairly often.
> This is because original tips are verbatim and could contain wiki-markup
> (eg. one space indent is interpreted as verbatim by the wiki or the vim
> command '[[' starts a wiki tag)
>
> 5) we definitely need to edit the tips later on. I wont tweak the script
> up to infinity. Some things are easier repaired by Hand (e.g.
> http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip7 )
>
> My host is only accessible until 17h MESZ (thats 3h from now on). Then
> i'll be offline.
>
> Please give feedback!
>
> Sebastian.
>
>
>
>


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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Sebastian Menge
Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 09:57 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl:
> At first blush, it looks really good.  I'm making a httrack copy of it
> right now since I know that it won't be up much longer.

No need to do that, ill leave the machine in the office, so everyone can
test all night long :-)

But please dont spam my machine ... ;-)

Sebastian.

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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Tom Purl 2
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On Tue, May 29, 2007 9:53 am, Tom Purl wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2007 8:45 am, Yakov Lerner wrote:
>> On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
>>
>> Where can I see the "recently posted"/"by recency" view ?
>> In other words, what's used for RSS ?
>
> I don't think that Mediawiki has this feature by default.
> Traditionally, I think you're supposed to explicitly "watch" a page and
> then you need to manually check your "watched pages" list.  It's not the
> most efficient process in the world I know, but that's the way it's done
> most of the time.

Wait, here's a better answer.  It looks like both wikia and wikibooks
offers an rss feed of the "recent changes" page.  Since we have our own
wiki instance on wikia, the recent changes page on has vim-related
changes.  On the wikibooks page, it appears that every single change to
en.wikibooks.org is recorded on that page.  This may be something to
think about when we eventually choose our wiki host.


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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Yegappan Lakshmanan
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Hi Sebastian,

On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
>
> I did a lot of experiments over the weekend. I mostly used a local
> mediawiki-installation and even from localhost to localhost a full
> import takes about an hour. Im excited to learn how long it will take to
> import to a remote mediawiki ...
>

The Vim tips wiki page looks great. Nice work.

The contents of the following converted wiki tip page doesn't look
correct (a sample
page I looked at):

http://ls10pc13.cs.uni-dortmund.de/mediawiki/index.php/Computing_a_sum_of_numbers_in_vim

Maybe these kinds of problems can be corrected only by manual editing
by the Vim community.

Is it possible to display a list of recently updated/posted tips in a separate
page?

- Yegappan

>
> Some notes about it:
>
> 1) references to other tips get automatically replaced like in
> http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip123
>
> 2) references to the vim help get replaced by links to the
> vim-doc.sf.net as in http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip26
>
> 3) the following chars are forbidden in titles : [] {} # | +
> These get replaced by __HASH__ __PLUS__ and the like. This is ugly but i
> dont want to do any editorial work on the articles now.
>
> 4) The formatting of the tips and comments gets broken fairly often.
> This is because original tips are verbatim and could contain wiki-markup
> (eg. one space indent is interpreted as verbatim by the wiki or the vim
> command '[[' starts a wiki tag)
>
> 5) we definitely need to edit the tips later on. I wont tweak the script
> up to infinity. Some things are easier repaired by Hand (e.g.
> http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/VimTip7 )
>
> My host is only accessible until 17h MESZ (thats 3h from now on). Then
> i'll be offline.
>
> Please give feedback!
>
> Sebastian.
>
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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

A.J.Mechelynck
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Sebastian Menge wrote:

> Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2007, 02:45 -1100 schrieb Yakov Lerner:
>> On 5/29/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
>> Where can I see the "recently posted"/"by recency" view ?
>> In other words, what's used for RSS ?
>
> It's a quick and dirty installation on my machine, probably RSS is an
> extension that is not installed. That will change on vim.wikia.com.
>
> Recent Changes in HTML-Form can be found here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/index.php/Special:Recentchanges
>
> Seb.
>
>

That URL is broken; use the following:

http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5/Special:Recentchanges

otherwise "index.php" gets duplicated, leading to "Page not found, do you wish
to create it?"


Best regards,
Tony.
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which time it will be worth absolutely nothing.
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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

Yongwei Wu
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HI Sebastian,

On 29/05/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
[snipped]
> Please give feedback!

From this page:

http://ls10pc13.cs.uni-dortmund.de/mediawiki/index.php/AES256_Encryption_in_vim_done_easy.

I realized that `#' is interpreted as numbering in MediaWiki and needs
some special processing. Maybe it is better to do so from your script.

I have no idea how to escape it.

Best regards,

Yongwei
--
Wu Yongwei
URL: http://wyw.dcweb.cn/
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Re: VimWiki - First Beta

A.J.Mechelynck
Yongwei Wu wrote:

> HI Sebastian,
>
> On 29/05/07, Sebastian Menge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> Access the first beta here: http://tinyurl.com/34kfj5
> [snipped]
>> Please give feedback!
>
>> From this page:
>
> http://ls10pc13.cs.uni-dortmund.de/mediawiki/index.php/AES256_Encryption_in_vim_done_easy.
>
>
> I realized that `#' is interpreted as numbering in MediaWiki and needs
> some special processing. Maybe it is better to do so from your script.
>
> I have no idea how to escape it.

I haven't tried but I can imagine either

        &#35;

or

        <nowiki>#</nowiki>

Not sure whether they both work.

>
> Best regards,
>
> Yongwei

Best regards,
Tony.
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firearms with me.  I said, `Well, what do you need?'"
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