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Christian Brabandt-2
Hi,
can someone enlighten me, how the configure vim to display the attached
text file correctly?

For me, it does not display correctly under Windows, neither on Unix as
Gvim. For the terminal gnome-terminal (3.14.1) vim seems to display the
font almost correctly.

I attach a screenshot on how it looks here locally (upper application is
iceweasel displaying the 2html'ed file, in the middle is gtk2 gvim (font
seems to be Monospace Regular 10) 7.4.942 and at the bottom is the
display in Gnome Terminal.

Also what options do I need (or fonts?)

BTW: What would be suitable fonts for use on windows  guifontwide
setting? I read the help, but I am not sure how to set this correctly.
Setting guifontwide=* does not work there.

Best,
Christian
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Re: vim font issue

Charles E Campbell Jr
Christian Brabandt wrote:

> Hi,
> can someone enlighten me, how the configure vim to display the attached
> text file correctly?
>
> For me, it does not display correctly under Windows, neither on Unix as
> Gvim. For the terminal gnome-terminal (3.14.1) vim seems to display the
> font almost correctly.
>
> I attach a screenshot on how it looks here locally (upper application is
> iceweasel displaying the 2html'ed file, in the middle is gtk2 gvim (font
> seems to be Monospace Regular 10) 7.4.942 and at the bottom is the
> display in Gnome Terminal.
>
> Also what options do I need (or fonts?)
>
> BTW: What would be suitable fonts for use on windows  guifontwide
> setting? I read the help, but I am not sure how to set this correctly.
> Setting guifontwide=* does not work there.
>
Hi, Chris:

I'm sure I can't help you, because it sounds like its a Windows font
installing problem.  However, I wasn't really able to get a good copy of
your "txt" file, either -- something seems to be trying to "helpfully"
interpret it (I use seamonkey, did a save-as, and got

(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

which doesn't particularly resemble any of the screenshots you have).  I
suggest using gzip on the file and attaching that -- because mimencode
knows to leave gzip'd contents alone no matter how odd.

Regards,
Chip Campbell

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Re: vim font issue

Christian Brabandt
Hi Charles!

On Di, 01 Dez 2015, Charles E Campbell wrote:

> Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > can someone enlighten me, how the configure vim to display the attached
> > text file correctly?
> >
> > For me, it does not display correctly under Windows, neither on Unix as
> > Gvim. For the terminal gnome-terminal (3.14.1) vim seems to display the
> > font almost correctly.
> >
> > I attach a screenshot on how it looks here locally (upper application is
> > iceweasel displaying the 2html'ed file, in the middle is gtk2 gvim (font
> > seems to be Monospace Regular 10) 7.4.942 and at the bottom is the
> > display in Gnome Terminal.
> >
> > Also what options do I need (or fonts?)
> >
> > BTW: What would be suitable fonts for use on windows  guifontwide
> > setting? I read the help, but I am not sure how to set this correctly.
> > Setting guifontwide=* does not work there.
> >
> Hi, Chris:
>
> I'm sure I can't help you, because it sounds like its a Windows font
> installing problem.  However, I wasn't really able to get a good copy of
> your "txt" file, either -- something seems to be trying to "helpfully"
> interpret it (I use seamonkey, did a save-as, and got
>
> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>
> which doesn't particularly resemble any of the screenshots you have).  I
> suggest using gzip on the file and attaching that -- because mimencode
> knows to leave gzip'd contents alone no matter how odd.
Okay, please try again with the attached and gzip'ed file.

Best,
Christian
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Re: vim font issue

Reid Thompson
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 22:05 +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:

> Hi Charles!
>
> On Di, 01 Dez 2015, Charles E Campbell wrote:
>
> > Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > can someone enlighten me, how the configure vim to display the attached
> > > text file correctly?
> > >
> > > For me, it does not display correctly under Windows, neither on Unix as
> > > Gvim. For the terminal gnome-terminal (3.14.1) vim seems to display the
> > > font almost correctly.
> > >
> > > I attach a screenshot on how it looks here locally (upper application is
> > > iceweasel displaying the 2html'ed file, in the middle is gtk2 gvim (font
> > > seems to be Monospace Regular 10) 7.4.942 and at the bottom is the
> > > display in Gnome Terminal.
> > >
> > > Also what options do I need (or fonts?)
> > >
> > > BTW: What would be suitable fonts for use on windows  guifontwide
> > > setting? I read the help, but I am not sure how to set this correctly.
> > > Setting guifontwide=* does not work there.
> > >
> > Hi, Chris:
> >
> > I'm sure I can't help you, because it sounds like its a Windows font
> > installing problem.  However, I wasn't really able to get a good copy of
> > your "txt" file, either -- something seems to be trying to "helpfully"
> > interpret it (I use seamonkey, did a save-as, and got
> >
> > (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
> >
> > which doesn't particularly resemble any of the screenshots you have).  I
> > suggest using gzip on the file and attaching that -- because mimencode
> > knows to leave gzip'd contents alone no matter how odd.
>
> Okay, please try again with the attached and gzip'ed file.
>
> Best,
> Christian
> --
> Ich bin der Überzeugung, daß es kaum jemanden gibt, dessen Intimleben
> die Welt nicht in Staunen und Horror versetzte, wenn es übers Radio
> gesendet werden würde.
>  -- William Somerset Maugham
>
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opening the gzip'd file in gvim on my box gives list filetype  utf-8 unix
and the text and 'image' below, which is rendered slightly differently
in gvim vs in the evolution composer window (see attached png of gvim
rendering ColPop.png and vim rendering ColPop1.png which is also slightly
different and evo composer rendering ColPop2.png )

This is a test

(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


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Re: vim font issue

Christian Brabandt
Hi Reid!

On Di, 01 Dez 2015, Reid Thompson wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 22:05 +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > Hi Charles!
> >
> > On Di, 01 Dez 2015, Charles E Campbell wrote:
> >
> > > Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > can someone enlighten me, how the configure vim to display the attached
> > > > text file correctly?
> > > >
> > > > For me, it does not display correctly under Windows, neither on Unix as
> > > > Gvim. For the terminal gnome-terminal (3.14.1) vim seems to display the
> > > > font almost correctly.
> > > >
> > > > I attach a screenshot on how it looks here locally (upper application is
> > > > iceweasel displaying the 2html'ed file, in the middle is gtk2 gvim (font
> > > > seems to be Monospace Regular 10) 7.4.942 and at the bottom is the
> > > > display in Gnome Terminal.
> > > >
> > > > Also what options do I need (or fonts?)
> > > >
> > > > BTW: What would be suitable fonts for use on windows  guifontwide
> > > > setting? I read the help, but I am not sure how to set this correctly.
> > > > Setting guifontwide=* does not work there.
> > > >
> > > Hi, Chris:
> > >
> > > I'm sure I can't help you, because it sounds like its a Windows font
> > > installing problem.  However, I wasn't really able to get a good copy of
> > > your "txt" file, either -- something seems to be trying to "helpfully"
> > > interpret it (I use seamonkey, did a save-as, and got
> > >
> > > (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
> > >
> > > which doesn't particularly resemble any of the screenshots you have).  I
> > > suggest using gzip on the file and attaching that -- because mimencode
> > > knows to leave gzip'd contents alone no matter how odd.
> >
> > Okay, please try again with the attached and gzip'ed file.
> >
> > Best,
> > Christian
> > --
> > Ich bin der Überzeugung, daß es kaum jemanden gibt, dessen Intimleben
> > die Welt nicht in Staunen und Horror versetzte, wenn es übers Radio
> > gesendet werden würde.
> >  -- William Somerset Maugham
> >
> > --
> opening the gzip'd file in gvim on my box gives list filetype  utf-8 unix
> and the text and 'image' below, which is rendered slightly differently
> in gvim vs in the evolution composer window (see attached png of gvim
> rendering ColPop.png and vim rendering ColPop1.png which is also slightly
> different and evo composer rendering ColPop2.png )

I think you attached the wrong ColPop.png.


Best,
Christian
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Re: vim font issue

Reid Thompson
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On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 21:29 +0000, Reid Thompson wrote:

> opening the gzip'd file in gvim on my box gives list filetype  utf-8 unix
> and the text and 'image' below, which is rendered slightly differently
> in gvim vs in the evolution composer window (see attached png of gvim
> rendering ColPop.png and vim rendering ColPop1.png which is also slightly
> different and evo composer rendering ColPop2.png )
>
> This is a test
>
> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>
ugh -- let me get the image files correct.

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Re: vim font issue

Tony Mechelynck
Apparently, combining characters are not always positioned where they belong.

This reminds me of a problem I had recently with SeaMonkey and which I
resolved by selecting a different font. It may or may not be due to
the same causes, since my SeaMonkey is built with GTK3, my gvim is
built with GTK2 (both with pango-cairo IIUC), and Windows gvim is
something else again. In addition I had the problem with a serif font
and didn't try to reproduce it with monospace or even sans-serif.
However, if the problem is in the font rather than in the rendering
engine there might be a common cause.

The whole gory discussion of my problem is at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228221 (and hitch your
belts, it does get technical in parts). A followup bug has been opened
at openSUSE but with no reply so far from developers.


Best regards,
Tony.

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Re: vim font issue

Christian Brabandt-2
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Am 2015-12-01 22:36, schrieb Reid Thompson:

> On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 21:29 +0000, Reid Thompson wrote:
>> opening the gzip'd file in gvim on my box gives list filetype  utf-8
>> unix
>> and the text and 'image' below, which is rendered slightly differently
>> in gvim vs in the evolution composer window (see attached png of gvim
>> rendering ColPop.png and vim rendering ColPop1.png which is also
>> slightly
>> different and evo composer rendering ColPop2.png )
>>
>> This is a test
>>
>> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>>
>
> ugh -- let me get the image files correct.

What gvim version is this? I think the little dotted circle in gvim
was a bug that was fixed with patch 7.4.855 "GTK: font glitches for
combining characters"

But even with a newer gvim, I do not see the expected output as seen
from my first mail.

BTW: how do i know, whether my gvim uses pango to render the characters?
Do I need the gnome
build for that? Or is a GTK2 build sufficient?

@Bram, there still seems to be a font rendering issue with gvim and
combining chars.

Best,
Christian

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Re: vim font issue

Reid Thompson
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 09:15 +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:

> Am 2015-12-01 22:36, schrieb Reid Thompson:
> > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 21:29 +0000, Reid Thompson wrote:
> > > opening the gzip'd file in gvim on my box gives list filetype  utf-8
> > > unix
> > > and the text and 'image' below, which is rendered slightly differently
> > > in gvim vs in the evolution composer window (see attached png of gvim
> > > rendering ColPop.png and vim rendering ColPop1.png which is also
> > > slightly
> > > different and evo composer rendering ColPop2.png )
> > >
> > > This is a test
> > >
> > > (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
> > >
> >
> > ugh -- let me get the image files correct.
>
> What gvim version is this? I think the little dotted circle in gvim
> was a bug that was fixed with patch 7.4.855 "GTK: font glitches for
> combining characters"
>
> But even with a newer gvim, I do not see the expected output as seen
> from my first mail.
>
> BTW: how do i know, whether my gvim uses pango to render the characters?
> Do I need the gnome
> build for that? Or is a GTK2 build sufficient?
>
> @Bram, there still seems to be a font rendering issue with gvim and
> combining chars.
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> --


$ gvim --version
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Oct 22 2015 16:48:44)
Included patches: 1-769
Modified by Gentoo-7.4.769
Compiled by rthompso@raker3
Huge version with GTK2 GUI.  Features included (+) or not (-):
+acl             +farsi           +mouse_netterm   +syntax
+arabic          +file_in_path    +mouse_sgr       +tag_binary
+autocmd         +find_in_path    -mouse_sysmouse  +tag_old_static
+balloon_eval    +float           +mouse_urxvt     -tag_any_white
+browse          +folding         +mouse_xterm     -tcl
++builtin_terms  -footer          +multi_byte      +terminfo
+byte_offset     +fork()          +multi_lang      +termresponse
+cindent         +gettext         -mzscheme        +textobjects
+clientserver    -hangul_input    -netbeans_intg   +title
+clipboard       +iconv           +path_extra      +toolbar
+cmdline_compl   +insert_expand   +perl            +user_commands
+cmdline_hist    +jumplist        +persistent_undo +vertsplit
+cmdline_info    +keymap          +postscript      +virtualedit
+comments        +langmap         +printer         +visual
+conceal         +libcall         +profile         +visualextra
+cryptv          +linebreak       +python/dyn      +viminfo      [172.16.28.40]
+cscope          +lispindent      +python3/dyn     +vreplace
+cursorbind      +listcmds        +quickfix        +wildignore
+cursorshape     +localmap        +reltime         +wildmenu
+dialog_con_gui  -lua             +rightleft       +windows
+diff            +menu            +ruby            +writebackup
+digraphs        +mksession       +scrollbind      +X11
+dnd             +modify_fname    +signs           -xfontset
-ebcdic          +mouse           +smartindent     +xim
+emacs_tags      +mouseshape      -sniff           +xsmp_interact
+eval            +mouse_dec       +startuptime     +xterm_clipboard
+ex_extra        -mouse_gpm       +statusline      -xterm_save
+extra_search    -mouse_jsbterm   -sun_workshop    +xpm
   system vimrc file: "/etc/vim/vimrc"
     user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc"
 2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc"
      user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc"
  system gvimrc file: "/etc/vim/gvimrc"
    user gvimrc file: "$HOME/.gvimrc"
2nd user gvimrc file: "~/.vim/gvimrc"
    system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim"
  fall-back for $VIM: "/usr/share/vim"
Compilation: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK  -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2    -march=corei7-avx -O2 -pipe -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1       
Linking: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc   -L. -Wl,-O1 -fstack-protector -rdynamic -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-E  -Wl,-O1 -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,--as-needed -o gvim   -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -latk-1.0 -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lfontconfig -lfreetype  -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXt -lX11 -lXdmcp -lSM -lICE  -lm -lncurses -lelf    -lacl -lattr -ldl   -Wl,-E -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed  -L/usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.2/x86_64-linux/CORE -lperl -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc    -lruby21 -lpthread -lgmp -ldl -lcrypt -lm  -L/usr/lib64   

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Re: vim font issue

Tony Mechelynck
Hmmm, I don't like that "Modified by Gentoo" line: about vetting Vim
source I trust only Bram Moolenaar. And as you can see at the bottom
under "Compilation" and "Linking" it includes pango-cairo even though
it is built with GTK2 but not GNOME. Apart from that, it looks like a
rather typical Huge Vim 7.4.769 (we're at 7.4.947 now, maybe 947 soon)
with multi-language, with perl, python, python3 and ruby but not tcl
and mzscheme, with mouse in xterm but not in the Linux console, etc.

At http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.4/ you can see a one-line
description of every 7.4 patchlevel to date.

Best regards,
Tony.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Reid Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 09:15 +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote:
>> Am 2015-12-01 22:36, schrieb Reid Thompson:
>> > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 21:29 +0000, Reid Thompson wrote:
>> > > opening the gzip'd file in gvim on my box gives list filetype  utf-8
>> > > unix
>> > > and the text and 'image' below, which is rendered slightly differently
>> > > in gvim vs in the evolution composer window (see attached png of gvim
>> > > rendering ColPop.png and vim rendering ColPop1.png which is also
>> > > slightly
>> > > different and evo composer rendering ColPop2.png )
>> > >
>> > > This is a test
>> > >
>> > > (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>> > >
>> >
>> > ugh -- let me get the image files correct.
>>
>> What gvim version is this? I think the little dotted circle in gvim
>> was a bug that was fixed with patch 7.4.855 "GTK: font glitches for
>> combining characters"
>>
>> But even with a newer gvim, I do not see the expected output as seen
>> from my first mail.
>>
>> BTW: how do i know, whether my gvim uses pango to render the characters?
>> Do I need the gnome
>> build for that? Or is a GTK2 build sufficient?
>>
>> @Bram, there still seems to be a font rendering issue with gvim and
>> combining chars.
>>
>> Best,
>> Christian
>>
>> --
>
>
> $ gvim --version
> VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Oct 22 2015 16:48:44)
> Included patches: 1-769
> Modified by Gentoo-7.4.769
> Compiled by rthompso@raker3
> Huge version with GTK2 GUI.  Features included (+) or not (-):
> +acl             +farsi           +mouse_netterm   +syntax
> +arabic          +file_in_path    +mouse_sgr       +tag_binary
> +autocmd         +find_in_path    -mouse_sysmouse  +tag_old_static
> +balloon_eval    +float           +mouse_urxvt     -tag_any_white
> +browse          +folding         +mouse_xterm     -tcl
> ++builtin_terms  -footer          +multi_byte      +terminfo
> +byte_offset     +fork()          +multi_lang      +termresponse
> +cindent         +gettext         -mzscheme        +textobjects
> +clientserver    -hangul_input    -netbeans_intg   +title
> +clipboard       +iconv           +path_extra      +toolbar
> +cmdline_compl   +insert_expand   +perl            +user_commands
> +cmdline_hist    +jumplist        +persistent_undo +vertsplit
> +cmdline_info    +keymap          +postscript      +virtualedit
> +comments        +langmap         +printer         +visual
> +conceal         +libcall         +profile         +visualextra
> +cryptv          +linebreak       +python/dyn      +viminfo      [172.16.28.40]
> +cscope          +lispindent      +python3/dyn     +vreplace
> +cursorbind      +listcmds        +quickfix        +wildignore
> +cursorshape     +localmap        +reltime         +wildmenu
> +dialog_con_gui  -lua             +rightleft       +windows
> +diff            +menu            +ruby            +writebackup
> +digraphs        +mksession       +scrollbind      +X11
> +dnd             +modify_fname    +signs           -xfontset
> -ebcdic          +mouse           +smartindent     +xim
> +emacs_tags      +mouseshape      -sniff           +xsmp_interact
> +eval            +mouse_dec       +startuptime     +xterm_clipboard
> +ex_extra        -mouse_gpm       +statusline      -xterm_save
> +extra_search    -mouse_jsbterm   -sun_workshop    +xpm
>    system vimrc file: "/etc/vim/vimrc"
>      user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc"
>  2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc"
>       user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc"
>   system gvimrc file: "/etc/vim/gvimrc"
>     user gvimrc file: "$HOME/.gvimrc"
> 2nd user gvimrc file: "~/.vim/gvimrc"
>     system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim"
>   fall-back for $VIM: "/usr/share/vim"
> Compilation: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK  -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2    -march=corei7-avx -O2 -pipe -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
> Linking: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc   -L. -Wl,-O1 -fstack-protector -rdynamic -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-E  -Wl,-O1 -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,--as-needed -o gvim   -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -latk-1.0 -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lfontconfig -lfreetype  -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXt -lX11 -lXdmcp -lSM -lICE  -lm -lncurses -lelf    -lacl -lattr -ldl   -Wl,-E -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed  -L/usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.2/x86_64-linux/CORE -lperl -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc    -lruby21 -lpthread -lgmp -ldl -lcrypt -lm  -L/usr/lib64
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